GO back to your comotose state…..Pennant better than Kuyt??….go watch some Cricket!!!

Kuyt work ethic blah-blah-blah, to me his nothing but a useless wanker, for if you are a striker you must score goals not be running around in a wingers position looking all busy and look how he is messing up a great player like Babel’s confidence, a guy that wins you two games does not even get onto the field in the next game….

For some reason, Kuyt’s proving invaluable to the side. He has scored some vital goals and made one with Robbie Keane last Saturday.

Thought this was a brilliant piece on Pennant who gets slated by people in the media way too easily. The fact that he hasn’t complained once despite being marginalised shows a positive side to his character. If kuyt got injured who knows - he may get a run of games as he offers a very different threat to Bennayoun

Kuyt is NOT a winger… Pennant is and a pretty good one at that. ‘Pool has gotten lucky with the start we’ve had but Benetiz wouldn’t take long to f it up with stoopid selections yet again! Any1 with half a brain could tell you that Pennant is a better player in that position than Kuyt.. who is basically a hard working but out of touch STRIKER. I think benetiz confuses himself with his insane selections… but as long as we keep winning his going to coe of looking far too good!

Pennant although a talented footballer, does not possess the drive and work rate needed to become a legend or even a player worth a place in the team every week. He is his worse enemy by being lazy. I have watched him lose the ball and just stand and watch as is opponent just runs off time and time again. Kuyt on the other hand NEVER gives up and runs constantly for the entire game. As o boss i know who i would rather have working for me. It also makes it very tough for a manager to turn down the services of a man who runs his legs off. If Pennant wants in then he needs to start impressing regularly.

Hahahahahahaha! You have proven yourself absolutely clueless. Pennant better for the team than Kuyt! that’s got to be the joke of the year.

I refer the right honourable gentleman to a saying Shankly used when a reporter asked about trouble at Anfield:

“Aye lad, there’s alot of trouble at Liverpool being top of the league”.

Says it all really.

I’m willing to admit that sometimes Rafa’s team selections are difficult to understand but I also recognise that he’s infinitely more qualified to make those decisions than either me or any of you tossers. Kuyt is invaluable to our team in the position he plays, which, guess what? isn’t a classical left wing position now is it? You wouldn’t compare a wing back to a full back, would you?

RED LION…..In that case, as you know so much, maybe YOU shoul replace Rafa…..Oops!!

Babels goal vs Man utd… all down to Kuyt… Torres’ 1st vs Everton was partly down to Kuyt as his run dragged the defender away to allow Torres in behind and unmarked. The disallowed Torres goal was similar as Torres had again been left unmarked due to Lescott dealing with kuyt..
So… rubbish player Kuyt.. offers nothing… Dont be stupid, just watch the whole match and not pick out bits from match of the day…

this article is exactly how I feel about the situation. rafa could easily get 14 or 16 million for kuyt but he plans to sell pennant for 6 even if he is the much much better winger! he should finally get a chance and start at least two or three games in a row - he has great potential.
I don’t mean to say that kuyt isn’t good player and he is working a lot but pennant is at least the better winger! for sure

I agree with you that Pennant (and Babel as well) are better than Kuyt by some distance. A lot of Reds fans like Kuyt because he works hard (which is understandable) but the reality is that his work actually produces virtually no offensive penetration and he offers no viable offensive threat on that right wing where we badly need to stretch defences and get behind them. Kuyt’s habit of continually passing the ball back to midfielders (who are in a less threatening position than him) achieves nothing and just slows down our attacking play. It also means all the penetration has to come from other players which is unfair on them and makes us far more predictable as a team. Despite our recent run of good results we can’t realistically expect to win more games than Chelsea while only attacking down the left and through the centre. Its like a boxer who can only punch with one hand. Continuous references to Kuyt’s effort are also misleading because our other players also try equally hard but just have more ability than him. You don’t hear people talk about Gerrard or Torres’s workrate because its easy to point to tangible proof of their effectiveness whereas with Kuyt its practically impossible. Saying that Kuyt set up either goal against Everton is delusional. He played a minor part in the first goal which anyone else could easily have done and he should have scored the second goal himself. Instead he miscontrolled and luckily Torres was on hand to do what Kuyt should have done. This is nothing personal against Kuyt. On a personal level I like his attitude but his limitations are far too obvious and continuing to rely on him every game will certainly cost us more points than we can afford to drop over the course of a season.

Who would be a manager! I agree that Pennant is an awesome winger and i never understood why Rafa would not play him- but Kuyt has been our best player this season… not as skillful or quick as Jermain, but he has been a step ahead of the rest of the team so far. Was crap last season, seems to have got his head right and he is invaluable at the moment. Glad to see it- he seems like a great lad.

Kuyt isn’t good enough for Manure, Chelsea or Arse nor the Dutch international team where he has been dropped regularly and yet some stupid Reds fans think he’s good enough for Liverpool’s first 11, just because Benitez puts him. Yet if he was sold tomorrow only mediocre clubs would want him. Why?

Because Kuyt isn’t good enough for a top team, and neither is Pennant. But Kuyt has a better attitude so he plays.

Utter drivel i just wonder how many games the author of this article has watched.Kuyts a team player pennants a player.Simple enough for you or do you require a diagram?

Pennant v Dirk…Dirk any day, pennant has no goal threat whatsoever. Dirk has scored important champions league goals for us from the right side.

Against weaker teams, he is limited because he can’t beat a player and get around the back of defences, which is why I would like Babel in for those games. But for tough away games/against stronger opposition, Dirk plays a valuable role with he workrate.

Pennant is a waste of space. He was bought to cross balls into the box - yet in any game he plays he either hits the first defender or else he over hits it.
When he loses the ball then he commits foul after foul - as his red card in CL group stage showed.
He is petulant and not of the standard required to play for the ‘Pool. Kuyt may not be the greatest out and out winger but then again his performances this season have been superb.
The only hope now is that we get most of our 7 million quid back when we sell Pennant - howeve who is gonna pay over the odds for an average at best player ??? - Step forward Spurs or Newcastle !!!!!!!!!!!

I think rafa needs kuyt to do the right wing just to give the team a solidity which is nowadays required. The game of football can be very competive and kuyt really is a competitive player. He does have a above average ability to attack and is a excellent defensive player.
I would think rafa knows this, and if liverpool win a game, and he is playing, who can complain. Although if they need a goal and the opposing team is holding firm, then I guess he can be replaced. Not replacing him would be the mistake at that moment

ur not my mate, your not my fo. though im sure if you have other theories like this in your locker and we were to meet, perhaps a chance meeting on a plane then im sure for the duration of the flight i would happily pass the time ‘having it out’ about dirk fukin kuyt.
the word twat is unjust. dotting from day to day im not an angry person, but this pale shit gets right on my tits.
electryfying pace is not something i am blessed with, but then i dont parade myself on the great green field of anfield, for this selfish act, (something which he could put an end to), i hate him.
i could talk for hours, especially post game time. i might purchase a dictaphone, record my thoughts on his performance, seal it in an evelope then post it through his door, maybe then hel get the picture…FAKE INJURY.
never one to inflict pain on another soul, but i just wish injury to him. that seems harsh, but its the only way hes not going to play, benitez must see something in him (dirk), he must be showing him some great ball skills aside from his performances on a global scale.
slow
shit touch
no brain
crap hair

im not sure what dirks forte is. fukin work ethic, u having that?
rubbish
i dont give a fuk if he can run to close people down, i can do tht, so why arent i there doing it then? because i choose not to lick ass, especially that of an arrogant smug spanish mug who deserves fukin shooting.
fact, benitez is a twat.
but thats a whole different case study.
thats the begening.

I think we should get rid of both Kuyt and Pennant. Play Babel on the right - he is a right footed player and let him dazzle!!

With the money from Kuyt and Pennant we could sign two genuine world class full backs to make us even better. Whilst i think Dossena has made a decent start he is no Roberto Carlos/Clichy/Cole and Arbeloa is no Cafu.

I really do think that we need someone like Mancini or Cicinho like player for both left and right back and we will see a vastly improved side.

Other than that, we have quality keepers, centre backs, midfielders and our strike force is top drawer but could do with a certain scouser playing in Geordie land right now.

Yeah who do you trust Rafa who’s won things in the game, OK they’re not much really the CL, La Liga, FA Cup or Chakrit Narulap, a total loser? Hard choice that

All in all, Kuyt and Pennant are options for right wing. Against PSV who are going to be defensive, Pennant will offer pace and guile. The thing that Pennant frustrates me is that he normally cuts in when in the final 3rd of the field.

Unlike Reira who plays at the byline, Pennant must do that. Also he must make better decisions in the final 3rd. Too many times, his decision making is poor. Having said that, he must have the composure to do things in the box.

Kuyt gives us balance when Masch isn’t playing. His defensive duties on the right make Arbeloa look classy and silky. He probably doesn’t put in flair to the game but he steadies the ship on the right and plays can happen on the left with Reira/Babel. When there are problems, Kuyts always there. He’s the player who’d throw in 100% like Carra.

People always want 11 Carras in the team. Now we’ve got a Carra in Kuyt, why the hell are you guys crucifying him?

both ar bollocks

11 carras every game would end 0-0 u tit

i thought this was a great article… i agree with most of the points made and think pennant shud be given a run of games … even play babel on the right and bring penant on as a sub.. wud be better than having kuyt waste the ball with every miss placed pass.

If anyone thinks that Kuyt is effective from the wing, they clear either don’t watch enough games, or know nowt about footie.

In europe he scores a few goals, but that’s because teams concentrate so much on the middle that they forget about him - particularly after he has shinned the ball out of play for the tenth time.

Pennant’s problem is that he is thick. I mean, really thick. He is, I am told, untrainable, and does the same things he did when he was a kid. That’s why Wenger got shot, because the lights aren’t on.

He’ll always be just ‘quite good’ because he doesn’t learn, which is why managers lose patience with him very quickly.

Given how good liverpool’s centre is, any half decent winger should be made to look world class as they will always be given acres of space whilst the defenders mark Stevie and Fernando two at a time.

Kuyt is a genuine big game player, every team needs one. He has scored against AC Milan, Inter Milan, Chelsea, Arsenal, Porto, PSV. People say he was shit last season, give the poor bloke a fair go, his old man died. And although he didn’t score too many goals last season, Torres wouldn’t have scored as many if not for Kuyt’s runs. Kuyt is a very intelligent player. He gets into goalscoring positions an awful lot and even though he may not score the goals, his presence sets up other players to score. It was him that set up Babel for the winner against Man Utd and he also had a great game against Everton. Isn’t it funny, people crucify Rafa for rotating the squad, yet when he sticks to practically the same squad, people still crucify him.

you need dirk in the side because he’s not a lazt w@nker like so many others who start games for liverpool.

arbeloa
alonso
aurelio
babel
benayoun
lucas

None of the above are capable of covering the ground that dirk covers in a game. When we dont have the ball, he checks back and more often than not disrupts the play enough for us to win the ball back.

Before you start to criticise dirk because it’s convenient to do so, remember that its not just about a players individual ability that makes a team, its the way they gel into a side and allow their teammates to play.

Pennant has all the skills and ability to make an excellent player, but he is frankly unidimensional and doesnt really inspire the individuals around him to excel themselves.

Pennant is a decent player and perhaps been unfortunate not to get back in the team but if you look at it when he was out injured Rafa found a fantastic formation that allowed Gerrard to roam free and provide a lethal partnership with El Nino Kuyt’s attributes suited perfectly that right hand side role for this formation and has earned his place in the team with not only fantastic work rate but important goals and good link up with the players around him. If anyone goes wandering or haven’t got the legs to get back and help break up the play you can always rely on Kuyt to do it and this helps Liverpool’s high pressure/tempo game in which we always look stronger - just look at how he and Keane stopped United playing from the back it caused them problems - Goal v Inter - Goal v Arsenal - Goal v Liege - Goal v PSV he comes to the fore in European nights especially. So this isn’t just some random decision Rafa has made the decision has been forced upon him. There is no doubting Pennant is a natural winger and Kuyt isn’t but football has moved on and just cos you play natural wingers on both flanks doesn’t guarantee success the modern game needs more - look at united last year they didn’t play traditional wingers and limit them to hugging the touchline the players interchanged positions and this causes more damage. Rafa has options now and anyone of Kuyt, Pennant, Babel, Benayoun or Gerrard can play that right hand side role and offer something to it.

Alan: Saying that Kuyt would not get into top teams places. See Rooney. He plays exactly like Dirk Kuyt. I was not a fan of his, but this season he is showing us that he means business. Enough said

i totally agree with keith